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president obama's campaign outspending mitt romney's campaign almost 2-1 in the last three weeks of september. take a look at the next level. super pac level, republican super pacs outspending 2-1. in some senate races it shows more than 50% of the ads on air in swing states are coming from these super pacs. fascinating measure just how much they're having an effect and, in some cases, propping up campaigns. >> the two biggest super pacs out there, dedicated to president obama and romney, they're obviously the chief of each of those is about to come on the show. how are they doing specifically? >> in terms of money raised to debt, current year-to-date totals we have, the general ratio shows restore our future, romney associated super pac outspending the super pac associated with president obama. for the month of august, first time liberal super pacs outraised conservative super pacs. the restore our future super pac aired no ads from a period of august 21st to september 19th. they were dark. that's an extraordinary thing and raises a lot of questions. are they saving up their cash, considerin
president obama's campaign outspending mitt romney's campaign almost 2-1 in the last three weeks of september. take a look at the next level. super pac level, republican super pacs outspending 2-1. in some senate races it shows more than 50% of the ads on air in swing states are coming from these super pacs. fascinating measure just how much they're having an effect and, in some cases, propping up campaigns. >> the two biggest super pacs out there, dedicated to president obama and romney,...
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there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of the ryan budget cuts. >> right. rom uh any down played the ryan road map. keep in mind the first ryan budget plan included privatizing social security, at least to a certain extent. that's something ryan then dropped in his subsequent budgets. it was there and he was one of the advocates of the plan to put it in the market. secondly the medicare issue. those entitlements, we'll ha from biden about thursday. a lot of democrats think he dropped the ball not pushing the issues against mitt romney. joe biden will read ryan's book and go after those entitlements. >> up next, as mitt romney focus
there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of...
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>> ever since mitt romney called out big bird by name at last week's presidential debate, president obama's campaign has been having a lot of fun with it. at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> the obama campaign now featuring big bird in a new tv ad out this morning. this is from the obama campaign. >> i'm barack obama, i approve this message. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall
>> ever since mitt romney called out big bird by name at last week's presidential debate, president obama's campaign has been having a lot of fun with it. at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the...
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with just five weeks until election day and new polls showing president obama leading in key swing states, the presidential debates may be mitt romney's last best chance to turn this race around. and so we wanted to find out what the romney/ryan plan is when they face off against obama and biden. we caught up with running mate paul ryan saturday in new hampshire. before we sat down for an exclusive interview, we spoke briefly as he was about to it take the stage for a campaign town hall. >> what do you think just before you go out on stage each time? >> president obama is taking us in the wrong direction. mitt romney and i are offering them a different direction and i'm excited at the opportunity to give people the chance to pick that choice. that is what gets me excited about this. >> thank you so much for coming out, everybody. >> chris: congressman, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> great to be back with you, chris. welcome to new hampshire. >> chris: thank you. what does governor romney need to do wednesday night in the first debate? >> he needs to give the american people the cho
with just five weeks until election day and new polls showing president obama leading in key swing states, the presidential debates may be mitt romney's last best chance to turn this race around. and so we wanted to find out what the romney/ryan plan is when they face off against obama and biden. we caught up with running mate paul ryan saturday in new hampshire. before we sat down for an exclusive interview, we spoke briefly as he was about to it take the stage for a campaign town hall....
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does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as far from a conservative, a re masum you can put on the table. if you were honest, that's not the guy you would vote for, maybe someone in the middle, a moderate republican. but you a staunch conservative would not vote for mitt romney, the one na showed up last night? >> well, one of the things -- your question, of course, answers why i've done what i did the last five years trying to stop him from being the nominee, but he did effective things defending conservative values last night. if you look at one focus groups one of the networks did o
does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as...
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obama reelection not done. and mitt romney not toast. weeks to go. came on. a wall street that had dismissed his chances now saying all bets off. good for the challenger, not so good for a president that many argue looked more like a chump after the debate, now suddenly no debate. the president's. >> the people out there who are working every day you're not getting a tax cut, and you want to give them more. stock like you want to close the loopholes. you just want to add an additional tax cut over the loopholes, and that is a problem. neil: that was then. four years later clearly not as energized now. >> let's talk about taxes because i think it is instructive. now, four years ago when i stood on the status said that i would cut taxes for middle-class families. neil: the president is losing steam on stage. already fragile base. this is the basis that if you think about a, already arranged its inaugural in bites. what happens now? >> well, i talked to a couple of liberal voters last night. they said they were really disappointed in the president because there
obama reelection not done. and mitt romney not toast. weeks to go. came on. a wall street that had dismissed his chances now saying all bets off. good for the challenger, not so good for a president that many argue looked more like a chump after the debate, now suddenly no debate. the president's. >> the people out there who are working every day you're not getting a tax cut, and you want to give them more. stock like you want to close the loopholes. you just want to add an additional tax...
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either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto bailouts were critically important. ryan and romney said no to the auto bailouts and the president and the vice president said yes in the face of a lot of criticism and they have been proven right. paul ryan is an ideologue. he has a record and joe biden can pick on that record. joe biden can say to paul ryan, that $716 billion that you and romney keep on saying we are robbing from medicare, we are not robbing from medicare. we're actually extending the life of medicare. you, ryan, you use that 7$716 billion in your budget plan and yet you put it in there based upon you actually turning medicar
either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto...
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will romney in the debate next week talk about a benghazi security cover-up regarding the baha obama white house? >> thanks for letting me be on. benghazi has to be seen we had 20 embassies in the greater middle east where demonstrations took place. we had four compounds breached, american flags burns and the black flag of al qaeda raised. it was a disgraceful day, and it was evidence of a failed middle east policy. on benghazi itself, governor romney's been very clear. the president of the united states owes the american people candor and transparency on what's happened. that clearly has been a test which has been failed. they started talking about the spontaneous eruption that was incredible on 9/11, and this is a video that's been around for months. second, we have the type of equipment used. third, we now know there were intelligence reports. fourth, wern the ambassador was concerned about the security, and fifth, we had a stonewalling for days and days with this very story. >> that's the key point with ambassador rice making the runs. larry, do you agree with rich williamson, la
will romney in the debate next week talk about a benghazi security cover-up regarding the baha obama white house? >> thanks for letting me be on. benghazi has to be seen we had 20 embassies in the greater middle east where demonstrations took place. we had four compounds breached, american flags burns and the black flag of al qaeda raised. it was a disgraceful day, and it was evidence of a failed middle east policy. on benghazi itself, governor romney's been very clear. the president of...
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>>> the unemployment rate dropped below 8% for the first time in the obama presidency hitting 7.8% for september. but the raw job gains are tepid. will the below 8% news do much to change the economic perceptions of undecided voters in the final weeks before the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at the debate romney says he was wrong. as for the president, he put some mileage between himself and the mile high city with much more fiery talk than anything we heard from him at the actual debate. but is the president's tough talk too little too late? good morning from washington. it's friday, october 5th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we'll have much more on the new jobs numbers in minutes with economist mark zandi, texas senator kay bailey hutchison is here, and an exclusive this morning senior adviser to the president david plouffe. but first right to my first reads of the morning
>>> the unemployment rate dropped below 8% for the first time in the obama presidency hitting 7.8% for september. but the raw job gains are tepid. will the below 8% news do much to change the economic perceptions of undecided voters in the final weeks before the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at...
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couple weeks on libya you will see governor romney try to go after president obama on competence, on foreign policy but also on the broader issue of competence and leadership. >> and that brings you to the fourth point which is president obama ready for prime time? he's been president for four years. >> right. >> and he is well known for being able to give the great speech. >> right. >> is he ready for this combat? >> that's right. i mean, governor romney, the 20th in the course of the primary, this is a different level. president obama has nodd not ha one for some time. i think president obama has to be careful month to not come off as too harsh. hillary, you're likable enough, when the president can come off a little bit cold. so i think he's going to have to be careful on that. >> and finally, as we go, who brings up bill clinton first? will we see he's campaigning in new hampshire today so he's being deployed. >> i have no doubt that president obama will be happy to invoke bill clinton's support here. and i wouldn't be surprised if romney mentioned him either in terms of trying t
couple weeks on libya you will see governor romney try to go after president obama on competence, on foreign policy but also on the broader issue of competence and leadership. >> and that brings you to the fourth point which is president obama ready for prime time? he's been president for four years. >> right. >> and he is well known for being able to give the great speech. >> right. >> is he ready for this combat? >> that's right. i mean, governor romney,...
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has the obama administration succeeded in making this a nonissue for the november 6 election? >> i think that they are trying to make it a nonissue for the election. but there has been too much misinformation. senator corker and i respect secretary clinton greatly. she has been the most the forth right of anybody in the administration. the president has hardly talked about it. ms. rice has told what she was told to say not what i think she really knew and as bob corker said in the clip earlier the one briefing from clapper and ms. clinton and the members of the secret service and the fbi was a nonbriefing. we need the facts and we need them now. >> geraldo: what about the tension that the best information that he had was what they gave and ambassador rice was merely echoing what the intelligence community had told her at the time? do you buy that? >> i think she was echoing what she was told to say. i don't think that is what the intelligence community was telling her. within 24 hours of the attack the intelligence community has told us they began to see evidence this was in f
has the obama administration succeeded in making this a nonissue for the november 6 election? >> i think that they are trying to make it a nonissue for the election. but there has been too much misinformation. senator corker and i respect secretary clinton greatly. she has been the most the forth right of anybody in the administration. the president has hardly talked about it. ms. rice has told what she was told to say not what i think she really knew and as bob corker said in the clip...
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onstage next week? and he said, quote, when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. mitt romney was aggressive but polite. that was a civil debate. this is not, i have to believe what mitt romney wants to be representing himself. >> let's hope not but john sununu said a few weeks ago barack obama was not a true american. he says these things. he will say whatever he thinks. >> it also fits into the grander picture, what you're seeing among conservative commentators now is this whole emperor has new clothes, has no clothes thing and the whole teleprompter from the last four years. they actually believe this guy isn't intelligent, which is crazy or it is bigoted. chris: i think it sounded ugly, i'll put it that way. your thoughts? >> i won't speak for all conservative commentators. chris: you don't have to. >> you certainly can make an argument and conservatives have been making an argument especially where foreign policy is concerned the administration has been incompetent. i don't take is
onstage next week? and he said, quote, when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. mitt romney was aggressive but polite. that was a civil debate. this is not, i have to believe what mitt romney wants to be representing himself. >> let's hope not but john sununu said a few weeks ago barack obama was not a true american. he says these things. he will say whatever he thinks. >> it also fits into the grander picture, what you're seeing among conservative commentators...
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how do you think president obama's performance is going affect turnout for democrats? >> i don't think it will, actually. you know, most people don't remember that in the first did he bait walter mondale just crushed ronald reagan. they remember the last debate. most people have not remembered that throughout the republican presidential primary debates, mitt romney was considered to have lost most of them. every week there was another star who beat mitt romney in the depate. they remember what happened at the end. it am a mets' fan. most people don't realize the met may have been behind a few runs what they remembered what is happened in the 9th inning. the first debate i think is not going to have bearing on democratic turnout. it is what is going to happen at the close. i have great confidence that the president is going to continue his momentum and going to win and so will house democrats. >> my condolence on the mets this year, congressman. >> thank you. >> we also had a big number come out today with the jobs report that some sense of that may be booing democrats
how do you think president obama's performance is going affect turnout for democrats? >> i don't think it will, actually. you know, most people don't remember that in the first did he bait walter mondale just crushed ronald reagan. they remember the last debate. most people have not remembered that throughout the republican presidential primary debates, mitt romney was considered to have lost most of them. every week there was another star who beat mitt romney in the depate. they remember...
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from the obama campaign jen saki. lester holt is live in afghanistan where three more americans died today after a suicide bomb. and curry reports from the syrian border. is iraq beginning to come apart at seams? more on that to come. "andrea mitchell reports" next on msnbc. xwch ♪ it has everything to put you in the malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ stay top of mind with customers? from deals that bring them in with an offer... to social media promotions that turn fans into customers... to events that engage and create buzz... to e-mails that keep loyal customers coming back, our easy-to-use tools will keep you in front of your customers. see what's right for you at constantcontact.com/try.
from the obama campaign jen saki. lester holt is live in afghanistan where three more americans died today after a suicide bomb. and curry reports from the syrian border. is iraq beginning to come apart at seams? more on that to come. "andrea mitchell reports" next on msnbc. xwch ♪ it has everything to put you in the malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ stay top of mind with customers? from deals that bring them in with an offer... to social media promotions...
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it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that had president obama up eight, nine, ten points nationally, let's see where it sorts out at the end of the week or beginning of next week. if you are mitt romney, this is -- the pew poll yesterday was huge news because a lot of what happens here at the end and we are 28 days away, is momentum based. for folks who haven't made their mind up yet you want to look like you're the guy with the momentum. coming off the debate and the pew poll you now can make the case that mitt romney is the guy who is kind of the energy and enthusiasm candidate. i think some polls will come out in places like ohio, virginia, north caro
it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that...
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he was trailing president obama by four points three weeks ago. wendell is at the white house. but, first, john roberts is traveling with the romney camp this afternoon. what is the enthusiasm like for the governor there? >>reporter: well, he is trying to narrow the enthusiasm gap. he won this county, madison county, in the caucus with only 17 percent of the vote. 64 percent voted "other" in the caucus. now many republicans in this state have found the candidate they were looking for. the polls are narrowing here. president obama now up by only three points. this event in rural america at a family farm, governor romney said that in his administration he would implement policies that would help rural america to grow. >> there are big differences between the president and me the he has no plan if rural america. no plan for agriculture. no plan for getting people back to work. i do. i have spoken about it all over the country. i will help the american farmer, our economy and get america working. >>reporter: he said that policies the president want to pursue would hurt people this
he was trailing president obama by four points three weeks ago. wendell is at the white house. but, first, john roberts is traveling with the romney camp this afternoon. what is the enthusiasm like for the governor there? >>reporter: well, he is trying to narrow the enthusiasm gap. he won this county, madison county, in the caucus with only 17 percent of the vote. 64 percent voted "other" in the caucus. now many republicans in this state have found the candidate they were...
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president obama raised taxes on the the middle class until last week when he slipped up and said president obama never raised taxes but will raise them soon. it was mitt romney who said let detroit go bankrupt. then he saw what happened after the automobile loan from the federal government saved 1.5 million american jobs and ohio's economy. and all of a sudden, mitt romney says the auto loan, that was just a good idea. and mitt romney says he will be the president for all americans. don't forget that. even though he was caught on tape saying he can never convince 47% of americans to take responsibility for themselves. this is why mitt romney can't be let off the hook in the debate tomorrow night. but it's hard to press him on these issues when he doesn't even answer the questions. here it is. >> what is the biggest misconception about you in the public debate right now? >> we'll have to create more jobs, have less debt and shrink the size of government. >> misconceptions about you? >> you get to ask the questions you want and i get to give the answers i want. >> i hope there's a moment lik
president obama raised taxes on the the middle class until last week when he slipped up and said president obama never raised taxes but will raise them soon. it was mitt romney who said let detroit go bankrupt. then he saw what happened after the automobile loan from the federal government saved 1.5 million american jobs and ohio's economy. and all of a sudden, mitt romney says the auto loan, that was just a good idea. and mitt romney says he will be the president for all americans. don't...
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you know with joe biden you are going to get a handsful of these -- maybe every week. but the soft spot for president obama is that the record for the last four years is not one he can be particularly proud of. he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t. he clarified and said it's because of the romney and ryan policies that they were buried over the larger period than four yierz, but it's a bad comment. it's the four years that you are going to have president obama trying to defend -- tomorrow night. >> the problem is, joe biden talked about the one thing he was not supposed to talk about on the campaign. this is what the obama administration has been militant about -- they want to talk about the bad things of the bush administration and the things they may do in the future that will make them better. they don't want to talk about the last
you know with joe biden you are going to get a handsful of these -- maybe every week. but the soft spot for president obama is that the record for the last four years is not one he can be particularly proud of. he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t....
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. >> after president obama's poor showing against mitt romney in denver this past week, democrats are counting on biden to pull out a win. >> vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what's been going on. he's in touch with the american public. and i'm just hopeful that mr. ryan will tell the truth. >> romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. >> i am sure that vice president biden got a phone call from the who is and said look, we didn't go after governor romney as much and so you have got to turn up the heat. >> i think both men will be very prepared. >> biden says he's ready. >> all debates are tough. but i'm looking forward to it. i really am. >> foreign and domestic policy issues will be in play thursday night. it's the only vice-presidential debate before the november 6 election. i'm christina mugler reporting. >> this thursday's vice-presidential debate may actually end up being the most watched v.p. showdown to date. >> that's due in large part to presidential debate that still has many people talking and we're joined by politi
. >> after president obama's poor showing against mitt romney in denver this past week, democrats are counting on biden to pull out a win. >> vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what's been going on. he's in touch with the american public. and i'm just hopeful that mr. ryan will tell the truth. >> romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. >> i am sure that vice president biden got a phone call from the who is and...
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we're talking with team obama in chicago. let's play it. >> they feel just as good about where they are today as they did two weeks ago. they said clearly public polling shows change, they don't see any fundamental change in the race whatsoever. >> is that wishful thinking or accurate read? obviously, andrew sullivan is an obama supporter but he's a conservative. he's trying to look for a silver lining, and he feels that it's been disastrous. that's one person's opinion. what's yours? >> i was at the jets game last name -- >> boo. you should only go to cowboys games. what's wrong with snu. >> people booed mark sanchez in the first quarter of the game. >> wonder why? >> this is a team that has a losing season. the contrast is with barack obama he's on a winning team. they've run a perfect reply flawless campaign. he had one bad debate performance, and now everybody is ready to throw up their hands in fear. people have to settle down and focus on the fundamentals like michael was talking about a moment ago of the six states in
we're talking with team obama in chicago. let's play it. >> they feel just as good about where they are today as they did two weeks ago. they said clearly public polling shows change, they don't see any fundamental change in the race whatsoever. >> is that wishful thinking or accurate read? obviously, andrew sullivan is an obama supporter but he's a conservative. he's trying to look for a silver lining, and he feels that it's been disastrous. that's one person's opinion. what's...
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barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have compeco completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor romney has embraced everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that is not completely accurate. >> meanwhile, paul ryan is pretending that he is not memorizing lines. >> you know me well, i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe what i believe and i do what i do and believe in the policies that we are providing, purs pursuing, at the end of the day i'm going to go in there and be me. y >> crystal, let's look at paul ryan going with his gutt with chris wallace. >> you haven't given me the math. >> it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> it is too long. it is complicated. i don't want to talk about. i mean, joe biden is not going to have any fear of being
barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have compeco completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor romney has embraced everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that is not completely...
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the obama anyway litigate flip flopping. we'll see what the next week will look at. >> rose: i want to come back to that but john dickerson tell me about the medicare argument and obama says he prefers now and like the sound of obamacare. who won that particular argument about obamacare and what it does and whatever romney's proposing and what that will do, including what ryan says about vouchers. >> well, the whole healthcare debate was a pretty good proxy for the larger debate. romney had his five points against the president. he talked about these panels which there's a panel called death panels. he talked about the $716 billion cut. the president's response was he kind of backed into his response figuring he would explain it and everybody would be smart enough to see the absurdity of mitt romney but he was not clear and on point. particularly on this voucher question, and what romney would propose with paul ryan to do to medicare. i mean, this is where i heard from a couple republicans well now we're on to medicare and t
the obama anyway litigate flip flopping. we'll see what the next week will look at. >> rose: i want to come back to that but john dickerson tell me about the medicare argument and obama says he prefers now and like the sound of obamacare. who won that particular argument about obamacare and what it does and whatever romney's proposing and what that will do, including what ryan says about vouchers. >> well, the whole healthcare debate was a pretty good proxy for the larger debate....
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and so that's what he's going to do, paul ryan himself in kentucky this week and arguably, he's going to have a harder row to hoe here going into the first presidential debate and barack obama, everyone expected he would win and romney needs to put in a good performance and in fact did very well. the argument here is that paul ryan is so great and he will hold his own, but no one should underestimate joe biden. he's going to be okay out there. >> paul: this may be something of a trap for ryan because you know, the media expectation he's going to do so well and he's a numbers guy and knows his brief and so on, but widen is a real slasher and he's going to go after, i assume, mitt romney, hammer and tong. what does ryan have to do here in this debate? >> well, he's going to have to fight back, paul. there was once a debate called a kitchen debate. this is going to be the kitchen sink debate and joe biden is going to throw one kitchen sink after another at ryan and he is going to bring up the 47%, he will bring up the war on women, he will bring up bain capital. he'll throw all of this.
and so that's what he's going to do, paul ryan himself in kentucky this week and arguably, he's going to have a harder row to hoe here going into the first presidential debate and barack obama, everyone expected he would win and romney needs to put in a good performance and in fact did very well. the argument here is that paul ryan is so great and he will hold his own, but no one should underestimate joe biden. he's going to be okay out there. >> paul: this may be something of a trap for...